References and Resources
This post is for things we think other people should look at. This could include websites of other art communities, info on starting a non-profit, pictures, workshops, and anything else you think would be helpful for everyone to see. I imagine this will eventually diverge into several topics but just to get more ideas rolling...
Ok, i am now going to attempt posting pictures. If you don't see them it means I fucked up.
also check out
www.monolithic.com
www.arcosanti.com
These are two sites that have building methods that I want to learn.
Photos:
1) Wright drinking from a water fountain containing water from 4 rivers from around the country. One of the ongoing HDTS art projects
2) One of Zittel's "Living Units". Nit exactly sure how it would be to live in in the desert. They were hot inside! But one was obviously inhabited.
3) Wright standing by a weird sculpture in the desert, smoking.
4) Noah Purafoy's Outdoor Theater. Part of his public outdoor museum.
5) Zittel's "Studio" based on trailer designs.
posted by Rebecca at 5:15 PM
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Becky, the photos are great. I must apologize for brevity here. Everyone, don't lose posts in the shuffle. Allison posted one on the last "post" that I put up, that I hope didn't go unnoticed. I echo Paterfamilias' return to the rural idea. Living in this city has only made me realize anew the importance of silence and space. I am all for the rural. Besides, where are we going to build structures in a city? I've thought more about the camp idea, and while I'm not ready to scrap it, it's not burning such a hole in my chones any longer. I think it would be a fantastic thing, but not a necessity at least at first. (You guys appear to either (with the exception of Patrick) been struck speechless by the brilliance of the idea or rendered in capable of response with loathing.) I do, however, really like the idea of energy production and powering the digs by alternative sources. I know that Toby is a big bio-diesel proponent, and according to Allison's post, there could me money to be made, or at the very least savings to be had. As a new (or not so new) strain of thought, I want to bring up the idea of governing principles for our establishment. I think we should devote a post to them that we can all add to and comment on. Wright (et al) I saw some theatre that blew my cock off. Banana Bag and Bodice (based out of SF) they were smart, fun, and hi-larious...and we can do better. But check them out if you have a chance. I saw "Animal" and "Panel." Also, we and B-dawg should catch up. Okay then off to bed and to think of governing principles.
Constantine Brancusi
Professional Philanderer
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Harroh Harroh!!! Is anybody home? Am I destined to be a disembodied voice floating in the void of the interweb like a lone tree with no one to hear my fall?
No, but seriously, I just deleted my own comment on accident..sheesh.
Resources: I'd like to add Jacob's Pillow to the list.
http://www.jacobspillow.org/
Another example of a successful artistic community, JP is pretty well established now, famous for its dance festival, but it started out as a rural farm purchased by Ted Shawn in 1930 and largely built by he and his dancers. The farm sustains itself through performances, tours, donations, and classes. Check out the history section if nothing else.
Allison commented that long posts can be difficult to respond to, so I shall strive for greater brevity. However, I think there are a number of things that we should get a consensus on from the my last epic post.
Also, I recommend changing your personal settings so that you get an e-mail informing you of every time there's a new post. This way you won't miss anything, and you don't have to check the blog when there's nothing new there.
Me also thinks we should all start laying out guiding principles.
Aah, one more thing to add to the wishlist.
I want a sacred space at Pangaea, a room to enter with reverence for meditation, yoga, intimate conversation, dance, but not open to a public, and with special rules governing it. For example, whatever comes out in this room stays in this room. A sanctuary.
I wish you all the best and bestest.
Mendelkorn Hammerstein
Piano Tuner and Breeder of Organ Grinder Monkeys
Hey all,
Sorry for the long delay. We've been out of interweb connection. No excuse I know...
Anyway I'm gonna dig right in with a few things.
First, thank you for all your insights fellas.
Second, I think we should keep this post for reference material ONLY and save the ruminating theories for another thread.
Third, Y'all should check out www.artistscommunities.org. It is very helpful. It's a website of artist communities around the world. A lot of it is directed to artists looking for residency programs (like me), but is a good review of what's out there. Among my favorites are Art Farm, Nebraska, and Yaddo, in New York.
Finally, I agree with Alison-- The entries are too long! My poor tired old woman eyes ache (did you all know I have that disease that makes you age faster?). And in the busy business of lives shorter entries would be so much appreciated on the becky front.
Ok, on to new threads...I have a lot of checking up to do! Much love to all...
YEE HAW! I have reclaimed this poor old thread...It has been so abused.
I would like to add to my list of resources this book:
Transfiguration of the Commonplace, by Arthur Danto
In light of the direction that my conversation with Tyler is going on the Visual Art thread I would really recommend this book to all of us as a introduction to how to discuss what art we like and don't like and why. It brings up huge questions of quality, meaning, and intention in works of art. It's main thesis question is: What is the difference between an ordinary something and an art something (if they look exactly the same)?
Also, wouldn't it be cool if we all could recommend one book or article for others to read, like a reading list? Then we could have one thread for each to discuss it? It could be like one book per person per year or something...
ok, smoochies to all, and please let me know what you think!
becky
B-dawg,
I love the idea of recommended readings. I think it would/will be really great to begin the construction of a shared vocabularly and set of ideas to help with our exchanges. I will look for Danto's book downtown today and be thinking of a book that I might like to recommend.
However, I must caution that as I'm already reading 2-3 books a week for school, I might be a bit slow to finish extra curricular readings.
Ok, I found a great website. It's
www.supernaturale.com
It's a website all about crafting, artists who are into crafting, and it publishes articles written by lots of people/other magazines, and it also features ordinary folk doing not so ordinary things. One thing to check out is my friend Julia who is being featured right now wearing her teddy bear hat that she wears around everywhere. It is simply a teddy bear head ripped off and unstuffed with two strings attached.
Also there is an interview with Andrea Zittel about crafting, links to freak-folk musicians, and images of album cover art. Very nice.
Also, you must check out the tutorials they have on Felting! We must felt! I don't know if I can get the materials together for this retreat but I'll look into it. Perhaps next retreat???
tschussy
Becky
Woah! you never know when a seed is going to sprout. I just received a friendster message from one Elizabeth Donner who was contacting me after almost 10 years. We met at CSSSA (California State Summer School for the Arts) at CalArts in 1996. She was wondering what I'm up to. Turns out she has started a very Pangaeaesque artspace in Sacramento called Fools Foundation. It looks really very cool.
Checkout their website at foolsfoundation.org.
I'm going to continue a dialogue with her and hopefully visit FF in November. She's interested in helping interested parties set up there own artspaces in various cities, sharing her knowledge and experience. This rocks.
Bay Area folks, if you have the chance to go and check this place out before me, please do. I think it could be really great all around.
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