Where do we go from here?
For lack of a better title. But don't cry for me Argentina, I'm sure we can come up with some direction soon.
As for what Patrice said, Ach Ya Ach Ya!
I love the desert. And I love spirit quests. Actually I have been day dreaming about the desert recently, as there is a part of my soul that is eternally tied to that landscape. I have no idea why, because I grew up in Massachusetts. Anyway, Joshua Tree is also where Andrea Zittel's site is (see the pictures I posted on R&R). It would be rad to go see some of that stuff. I am seriously thinking about going out there to volunteer for HDTS 2006 (visit www.zittel.org for more details) which occurs the weekend of May 6th and 7th. Another thought has occured to me that may just be too crazy to actually happen. But anyway, I want to maybe fly to Portland and pick up my huge canvas signs that are still sitting in the basement of a Reed house. Theeen, I'll rent a car and drive it down the coast. Theen, I'll stop in the Bay area and see if anyone wants to carpool. Theeen, I'll drive my signs down to HDTS to photograph them and help the artists there. Hang out, and then hit up a PanPal Retreat the following weekend. Sounds sweet doesn't it?
I don't know why anyone is actually going to care about my plan that will probably fail, but if it sparks any interest in your heart and makes you say, hey, i just had a great idea! then by all means let me know.
as for that other important stuff that Patrick said, I agree. I am still in favor of adapting the Twelve Traditions for governmental purposes. Is anyone else still on that boat, or has it sailed long ago?
Finally, Croth. I have been making tee-shirts from stencils. And I have a silkscreen printer on the way. Do you have an desire to do some collarborative work? Sell t-shirts together? Do designs together? I will have pictures soon on my blog so you can see. It would be fun to join clothing forces. Thoughts?
Oh wait. ok, now. Finally. Can we switch penpals? i like the penpal thing, and i love my penpal to itty bitty pieces, but i'm starting to feel somewhat stagnant. Thoughts?
xoxo
b
As for what Patrice said, Ach Ya Ach Ya!
I love the desert. And I love spirit quests. Actually I have been day dreaming about the desert recently, as there is a part of my soul that is eternally tied to that landscape. I have no idea why, because I grew up in Massachusetts. Anyway, Joshua Tree is also where Andrea Zittel's site is (see the pictures I posted on R&R). It would be rad to go see some of that stuff. I am seriously thinking about going out there to volunteer for HDTS 2006 (visit www.zittel.org for more details) which occurs the weekend of May 6th and 7th. Another thought has occured to me that may just be too crazy to actually happen. But anyway, I want to maybe fly to Portland and pick up my huge canvas signs that are still sitting in the basement of a Reed house. Theeen, I'll rent a car and drive it down the coast. Theen, I'll stop in the Bay area and see if anyone wants to carpool. Theeen, I'll drive my signs down to HDTS to photograph them and help the artists there. Hang out, and then hit up a PanPal Retreat the following weekend. Sounds sweet doesn't it?
I don't know why anyone is actually going to care about my plan that will probably fail, but if it sparks any interest in your heart and makes you say, hey, i just had a great idea! then by all means let me know.
as for that other important stuff that Patrick said, I agree. I am still in favor of adapting the Twelve Traditions for governmental purposes. Is anyone else still on that boat, or has it sailed long ago?
Finally, Croth. I have been making tee-shirts from stencils. And I have a silkscreen printer on the way. Do you have an desire to do some collarborative work? Sell t-shirts together? Do designs together? I will have pictures soon on my blog so you can see. It would be fun to join clothing forces. Thoughts?
Oh wait. ok, now. Finally. Can we switch penpals? i like the penpal thing, and i love my penpal to itty bitty pieces, but i'm starting to feel somewhat stagnant. Thoughts?
xoxo
b
posted by Rebecca at 4:35 PM
5 Comments:
First, I raise my outstretched hand and yell "Yah, Yah!!!" to Uncle Jesse's summer retreat suggestion. I graduate May 8th, so I could do it the middle of May and beyond. I can't really commit to specific dates at this point because I have little idea what will be going on at that time....could be good to do it close to graduation because I won't have a job yet...could be good to do it later on as part of a much longer trip back west and a way to escape the ungodly summer heat of the city. I will contact my sibyl shortly to see about clarifying these matters.
I would be very interested in seeing Andrea Zittel's site, as well as touring through the desert and installing some works of my/our own. I have a big project in mind.
I'd rather fly into the Bay and Drive down...me thinks it'd be cheaper and more fun....could also fly into L.A. I suppose....have to look into it a little more closely.
Becky's plan gets raised eyebrows and bounciness from me. I like these ideas.
I think establishing some governing principles is a great idea. Becky, can you refresh mine memory as to the specifics of the 12 Traditions? I can't tell where my boat is without a bit of a refresher course.
I'm open to switching penpals, though I think I have not been very good to my first wonderful penpal yet, and I would still like a chance to change this. I suggest that if we make a formal switch, new partners discuss a project that they'd like to work on via correspondence....give it slightly more structure.
As for intentional community v. artsy farters who know each other, I think this merits a thread in and of itself, which I will start shortly. Regardless the outcome, I think it important to muse seriously upon what either would mean in the here and now given our current circumstances and geographical locations.
I have gone on long enough. The nickname Nestor I desire not.
Enrique Pasquale
Columbian Exporter of Dietary Supplements
The Twelve Traditions (as adapted by Becky for the purposes of Pangaea)
1. Our common welfare should come first; personal growth depends upon Panpal unity.
2. For our group purpose there is but one ultimate authority—a loving God as He may express Himself in our group conscience. Our leaders are but trusted servants; they do not govern.
3. The only requirement for Panpal membership is a desire to make art.
4. Each group should be autonomous except in matters affecting other groups or Panpal as a whole.
5. Each group has but one primary purpose—to carry its message to the person who still suffers.
6. A Panpal group ought never endorse, finance or lend the Panpal name to any related facility or outside enterprise, lest problems of money, property and prestige divert us from our primary purpose.
7. Every Panpal group ought to be fully self-supporting, declining outside contributions.
8. Panpal should remain forever nonprofessional, but our service centers may employ special workers.
9. Panpal, as such, ought never be organized; but we may create service boards or committees directly responsible to those they serve.
10. Panpal has no opinion on outside issues; hence the Panpal name ought never be drawn into public controversy.
11. Our public relations policy is based on attraction rather than promotion; we need always maintain personal anonymity at the level of press, radio and films.
12. Anonymity is the spiritual foundation of all our Traditions, ever reminding us to place principles before personalities.
Some of them are a little weird, especially the ones about other "groups" because right now we're one group. But I find the core ideas still interesting.
I'm not against the 12 traditions, but as Allison pointed out...there are several that don't really apply to us very well. I like what Wright had to say.
While I think traditions or a constitution is important, at this point, I think that getting the schneezy made and out there is priority number one. Might I also suggest a homework assignment? We each come up with 10 "traditions." They can be borrowed or original, and we post them, without reading others first...then, we can see where there's overlap, what needs clarification....where there are disagreements, if we really need 17 traditions, etc. Also, I think the deeper we get into this thing, the more we will find the need to come to decisions given particular circumstances, and thus more traditions/policies will inevitably be born.
So, how about 10 traditions posted by Tuesday night? I'll put mine up, and I hope that others will follow suit.
I can tell you right off the bat I'm realizing that I can't formulate actual traditions right now. I'm finding I'm eating a lot of my words from the retreat aleady, and thus getting discouraged by my own brain. Nonetheless, I love the discussion of the AA Traditions that's happening and think it's all very worthwhile. I want to contribute the following rules formulated by John Cage as some food for thought. Once again, they do not all apply. But, can you guess which one is my favorite?
Some Rules and Hints for Students and Teachers or Anybody Else
By John Cage, Performance Artist and musician
Rule 1 Find a place you trust and try trusting it for
awhile.
Rule 2 General duties of a student: Pull everything
out of your teacher. Pull everything out of
your fellow students.
Rule 3 General Duties of a Teacher: Pull everything
out of your students.
Rule 4 Consider everything as an experiment Rule 5 Be self-disciplined. This means finding
someone wise or smart and choosing to
follow them. To be disciplined is to follow in
a good way. To be self disciplined is to
follow in a better way.
Rule 6 Follow the leader. Nothing is a mistake.
There is no win and no fail. There is
only make.
Rule 7 The only rule is work. If you work it will lead
to something. It is the people who
do all of the work all of the time who
eventually catch onto things. You can fool
the fans but not the players.
Rule 8 Do not try to create and analyze at the
same time. They are different processes. Rule 9 Be happy whenever you can manage it.
Enjoy yourself. It is lighter than you think. Rule 10 We are breaking all the rules, even our own
rules and how do we do that? By leaving
plenty of room for x qualities.
I like these "rules" very much...me thinks that I may use them in my thesis project upon which I currently work...Thanks for posting them Becks! Is rule 10 your favorite....rather difficult to decide.
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