Da Website
I'm starting this post because I want to start getting stuff on the website.
I have been thinking a lot about the strange situation our little group is in. We want to be a community but we're still figuring out what the principles of this community will look like. We want to make art together but we're miles apart. For myself I am eager to keep talking about all these issues but I want to start putting the art first.
I am eager to collaborate on projects. Until this happens I think it would be kinda cool to put some of my own stuff up on the website. I know i made a big stink about anonymity before, but until we're ACTUALLY a group serving people I wonder if it matters that much??? For example, in the future I can always take my name and personal work off the website and be present in an anonymous communal way only. In the meantime I think it would be awesome to start more visual dialogues. I don't mean that my work should be the focus of discussion, but perhaps it could be a vehicle to talk about issues of space, community, intentionality, language...all things I play with in my work. It is not about just touting my own stuff-- I would love to see/read/listen to everyone else's stuff too!!! Perhaps more collarboration can come out of this process.
So, my vote is to flood the website! Let's just do it! Let's just put everything up there and not worry so much about what happens!!! If problems arise we can cross those bridges then...but I want to get to the making!
posted by Rebecca at 6:15 AM
14 Comments:
ok, for those of you quiet types- i've been waiting patiently for responses, but am eager to go ahead with the website picture-posting-palooza. i'd love to have consensus on this but i will soon take your silence as an affirmative.
as for you unc jesse- i'd like to replicate pictures and text from my blog on the website to start out with. are you able to drag text and images from my blog to the website? (i can also email them to you if this is easier)
also, i want to have clever titles for things. so instead of the pages reading: "about", "projects", "press" or whatever i'd rather have them be nonsensical/intriguing. unfortunately, i'm terribly unclever. i leave this to you, unc.
it'd be nice to have my name somewhere on the same page as my work for clarity, but i don't necessarily need my own "Becky" page. again, perhaps cleverer people than i could figure this out? code names anyone?
tootloo, and extra special hugs to the website master-uncle.
I'm all for putting stuff up on the webiste, and I've been meaning to send some shizz to Stamos for some time now...however, busy busy busy with many projects at the moment...not all websiteable....still, I say send away with this caveat... perhaps we should set a date, but regardless... I don't think we should tell anyone about the website until we've got it pretty good and stocked...it's kind of like a grand opening...if we send out a friendster notice or whatever and there's little there, it's gonna be weak. We want it to be fascinating and inspirational.
Second, once we get the shizz up and running, I think it would be interesting if we made it so that everyone posts on different days once a week, or every two weeks, so there would be something new to see every day or every other day, that people might be inclined to check back and check back again.
sweet!
and
does anyone know how to do the "edit" type of webpage as is so popular in Wikipedia? Wouldn't it be cool if we could have our traditions, or the "about" section of Panpal be editable? We could constantly be editing in a continuous process like facelifts and botox for our mission. (And then we could argue inanely for centuries never really getting anywhere like on Wikipedia) just kidding.
xoxo
b
I don't know how to do the edit type of webpage, but I think that's a great idea. My one stipulation would be that we saved the various incarnations somewhere so that we would have a record of how we hada grown and changed.
Schweeet! It is so beautiful here today...life is good good.
i love upload routes.
Hi Kids. Nice to hear from you Tyler. I too have been consumed by projects and many fun outings. I've started checking out music in the area and am finally making some friends. There is actually quite a scene out here in southern vermont/ western mass kinda area. Who knew?
Anyway, I wanted to inquire about the development of the website. Patrick, I know you and Rachel have been dealing with poor sick Dante and don't mean to pressure you etc. I was just curious if any progress is being made. I'd love to transfer some of my blog pics over to the website still. I'm assuming we can just drag em over.
In other news I've started the wonderful exciting process of silkscreening! As a preliminary test The Croth and I made a joint design for PANPAL shirts. I will post the pic in a new thread for all to see. I printed enough garments for us all to have one but the actual printing part came out kinda crappy. I think I was overshooting my skillz just a bit. But nonetheless I will disperse garments to all soon!!!
kisses
b
p.s. does anyone have further ideas about a retreat? i am trying to make plans to come to SoCal for HDTS for the beginning of May and would love this to coincide with retreat time. But I need to start thinking about tickets soon!!!
Rachel and Becks,
I think the Panpal shirt design is totally awesome! I can't wait to get my shirt. Becks, glad to hear that life is growing more exciting up there for you and you're meeting some good people. I haven't too many thoughts on a retreat at this point, as things are very up in the air for me jobwise at the moment. I'll likely have some time right after I graduate on the 8th, but that's also my window for finding a job before the money runs out....it shall be a bit of a delicate balance.
Warmly,
Joshua Fincrest
English Gardener and Despiser of all things French
Hello All,
It has been far too long since a post was put upon this finest blog of ours. I hereby aim to remedy that.
Panpal is looking beautiful! Everytime I visit, I find something new, and it excites me. I just sent Stamos a design for my own page, and I'm really excited to see it go up.
A couple of notes on the whole deal.
There's a ton of great work being put up there. I don't want it to just be forgotten. I would like to give comments on other people's work and receive them on my own work.
What do you all think is the best forum for that?
The Blog?
Personal e-mails?
Please to let me know.
Second, there are some conspicuously empty spots on the blog. Please find below a first draft for the "about" section. I'm interested in your comments and criticisms. If something makes you want to vomit, or there's something really important missing, please to let me know, and I'll be happy to make some alterations. However, I think we should keep in mind that coming up with a document that all 7 of us love is going to be pretty hard....we can always change it, but let's get something up there, so the website is one step closer to being ready for unveiling.
Third, can we make the blog private, and if so, should we? I like the idea....it's like closing the doors to the board meeting now that we have a storefront.
Life here is going exceedingly well....I continue meeting interesting people and having wonderful experiences as I feel my confidence and comfort in this city grow....woo hoo!
hugs,
Ashcroft Muldoon
Amateur Egyptologist
Professional Reference Librarian - Government Documents
About
Panpal is a group of friends and artists from the far corners of the country. The name stems from “Pangaean Paleontology,” a Weblog begun in May 2005, which marks the group’s formal inception.
As the invocation of Pangaea, the ancient supercontinent now fragmented obliquely implies, we are a diverse group with a common core.
We work in a diverse array of media. We are playwrights, photographers, collagists, painters, filmmakers, conceptual artists, clothing designers, theatre directors, performers and poets.
However, within all these genres and more, we’re Artists, each committed to bringing something of personal beauty and truth into creation and helping one another do the same. Our primary goals are not money or fame, but creation and expression. Experiencing the joy that comes through the process of bringing something new into existence and encountering the creations of others.
In addition to maintaining this website and our weblog, we meet in seclusion for several days semi-annually in order to plan, share, laugh, and work. We’re working our way through cyberspace towards a physical space in which we may continue our work and forge a connection with the larger community around us by inviting others to participate as well.
We welcome your thoughts, comments and constructive criticisms. Thank you for visiting.
Panpal
Way to go Tyler! hoo hoo hoo! (I am whooping lik a drunken white-hat at a basketball game right now as we speak).
I don't really care about the blog being open or private. sorry to be ambiguous, but really, i don't care. so whatever you guys feel most comfortable with.
i agree we should keep the juices flowing between us. one way to do this would be to encourage more artistic collaboration between us and create pages on the website that show our collaboration. Some of this is happening a little- wright and i have a project in the brew, and croth and i have started throwing some silk screen ideas around. What if we reestablished group "projects" and we can each take a crack at proposing ideas (ala patrick's photo-response project in the fall)??? Some ideas we had at the retreat were chain letters or "collaged" books and a group quilt. anything sound intersting?
as for the "about" section-- i really really REALLY think we should set it up as a free edit thing if we can figure out how to do this. I liked what Tyler wrote and I also have a totally different view of what we're about. I don't think Tyler's view and my view are incompatible at all. I think it would be beautiful to make public at least that part of our development (of course only we can edit it). I love on Wikipedia how you can just go down these rabbit holes of meaning and actually read people's arguments with eachother. not that we would argue, of course....
what do you guys think???
b
Hi Hi,
Glad to have some more activity up in this piece, I am. So, back to a few points.
The Blog. I don't think it can be made private. The closest we can get is not making it appear on our blogger profiles, which is how it's currently set. People can visit if they know the address. If we want to turn this up a notch, we can remove any other links to it from our other web pages. I'm in support of this idea, but not wedded to it.
The "about" section. I'm open to additions and subtractions, which is why I posted it here before sending it to Patrick for the webpage. However, I'm not comfortable with it being an editing free-for-all, though we might post different versions for people to check out.
I view the blog as a place for discussion and alteration, but I see Panpal as a place to present a professional, unified front. I don't see it as a place for revealing process. Anyone who wants to can do this in his/her own section, or there could be an area of the site devoted to this, but I don't think the whole site should be this way. This is not to say that I see the "about" section (or any section) as fixed, only that I think changes should be decided upon off the website and then added to the website.
As for collaboration, I'm all for it. I'll be thinking of a "prompt" for the blog like Patrick's last one, and I encourage others to do the same. I think we should have a section for these projects on the website.
Other things I'd like to see on the website:
A space where visitors can comment upon the art works that we put up and we can respond, (as Wright suggested)
or:
An address for each of us, that people can write to us and we might respond.
For now, I also propose that we each get a thread on the blog where we can comment on each of our work.
Biggest and Best,
Vesevelod Radninsky
Rabbit Hunter and Serf Lover
I came up with one possible solution to the "about" section. What if the about section had all of our names listed and when you clicked on each of our names you would get to read a different version of what Panpal is about. This way we could each have a voice. We could change our entries if our feelings change as well as respond to what others have written without negating eachother's opinions. It would be like a pluralistic democracy in action. Multitudinous collaboration not only in spirit but also in practice.
also, this would allow us to respond with pictures or music as well as words...
In response to Becky's compromise....
I'm open to compromising, and I think you're on a good track, Becky. I think there still needs to be a little bit of tweaking though.
I think that (perhaps) in addition to our individual takes on Panpal, it's important that the "about" section have a quick single unified statement. It can be more general than the one I submitted if people have issues with that one, but I think it's important that visitors can come and get a clear, concise picture of the crux of Panpal, without having to click on multiple links.
I really like the idea of people responding in art rather than/in addition to words, and I think this would help to flesh out our definition.
As far as individual responses, I motion that they either be on each individual's art section page, or that we take special care not to repeat one another to the point of redundancy, nor to conflict with one another in our individual statements, as this would look bad for the site.
On an unrelated note, I'm interested in some collaborating. I'm trying to think up some ideas over here, and I'm open to everyone else's as well.
Best,
Bernie Von Hess
Needlepoint and Cross-stitch Master
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